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CSE Performance

Year-End 2021 Interview With Richard Carleton Part 2

Earlier this month, CSE CEO Richard Carleton sat down for an interview to recap an eventful 2021 and what is shaping up to be the CSE’s biggest year ever in 2022.

It is fair to say that the CSE is moving to a new level in the global exchange ecosystem – it’s like the next generation of the CSE. A senior issuer designation is part of this evolution. Can you update us on its status and the importance of the new designation, both to CSE issuers and the Exchange itself?

I think I should start by explaining that there is no such thing as an exchange designation being senior or junior. The way securities regulation works in Canada is that it is the companies that are characterized as being senior or venture issuers.

On December 9, we formally announced a project in the form of a request for comment published by the BC and Ontario securities commissions. What this entails is a significant rewrite to the listings rules of the Canadian Securities Exchange.

There are two major facets to the project. The first one is that we are updating our requirements for junior companies, both at the entry level and to continue to be listed on the Exchange. We have worked with our regulators over the last couple of years to revise these rules.

The second part, which is grabbing all of the headlines, is that we are creating a senior tier of the exchange. This is not a new exchange or separate trading facility, but a designation for a certain number of our issuers who have achieved a certain size and maturity in terms of the development of their business. Do they have revenue? Do they have significant assets? Is their sales trajectory rising? Do they have a significant market capitalization?

We’ve identified some 60 to 80 companies that would qualify to list on similar exchanges in Canada, and we’ve also seen a move by companies to dually list with Nasdaq this year. So, we are creating a rule framework that will regulate these companies, in effect as senior issuers.

The new framework will require these companies to have larger boards, bring more prescription around corporate governance procedures, plus set shorter timeframes to complete quarterly and audited annual financial reporting. There are also a few other measures that the companies will have to abide by, including more supervision of their continuous disclosure to the market.

In return, we believe there are multiple benefits for issuers designated as members of the senior tier. The first is that we have been working with IIROC to ensure these companies will be included on IIROC’s list of securities that are eligible for reduced margin when in dealer inventory. Right now, when dealers are holding CSE issuers in inventory, they have to take a charge against their regulatory capital of 100 cents on the dollar. Companies trading at more than $5.00 per share will only have to have a charge against regulatory capital of 20 cents, which is equivalent to that on other exchanges in Canada that serve as a senior company marketplace. It sounds technical, but it will have a practical impact on reducing the cost of capital for these companies when they are raising money.

We’re also working with international index providers to ensure that these companies are eligible for inclusion in different indices. For example, the US multi-state operators, which in many cases have market capitalizations in the billions of dollars, could qualify for inclusion in one of the MSCI or FTSE US indices. We have companies operating in Israel that would qualify for inclusion in the Israeli indices. We have been working with the index companies to provide for this capability.

We’ll also have, as part of the senior designation, the ability to list SPACs (Special Purpose Acquisition Companies), exchange traded funds, and structured products. And that’s important because we know that there are a number of ETF manufacturers that would like to launch products that are US cannabis-oriented, and they could launch those products on the CSE. There may not be much room left to run in the SPAC space, but we also know that there are some interesting structured products that are being developed, and we think we are the logical home for those instruments.

That is all part of the Exchange competition to come, where we will be working with the creators of these products to provide an appropriate home for their new listings.

Read Richard’s latest blog post here to learn more about issuer designations and the request for comments on the CSE’s proposal to revise its listing policies.

The senior designation is obviously going to be a very important development. Considering this, the impressive financing activity, the consistent growth in both institutional and retail investor participation, and other factors we have discussed, can you talk to us more about your views on the CSE’s evolving position within the broader global financial marketplace.

It is very much an evolution. We have been at this for 20 years and have the benefit of a very experienced team, whether it’s on the trading, market information, or listings regulation side, who understand at a very deep level what it takes to provide successful exchange services to the issuer, investor, and trading communities.

What it has really been is a series of efforts by us to eliminate all of the barriers and friction points for our issuers in the provision of those services. If I think back some years ago, we weren’t accessible by the online discount brokers in Canada. That was a huge issue that we devoted a great deal of time and energy to, and then five or six years ago, we managed to overcome that hurdle. Of course, that had a big impact on turnover, accessibility, and the appeal of a listing on the Canadian Securities Exchange.

Now that we have a cohort of larger, highly successful companies that have achieved a significant level of development in their lifecycle, we are looking at the friction points there. I talked about membership in international indices. We also need to improve access for international investors, one example being brokers who provide access to Canada for accounts in Europe, Asia, the Middle East, and other regions. We have to ensure they have access to these names.

There are institutional investors who claim they won’t invest in the small-cap space and have concluded that anything listed on the CSE is small-cap in nature. We have to work with these institutional investors to educate them about the success that many of our issuers have had, and the fact that they have attained market capitalizations in excess of a billion dollars in a number of cases.

At the end of the day, it’s a case of keeping our nose to the grindstone. It’s doing the hard work, making the trips, representing the issuers, identifying the hurdles, and developing plans to overcome those challenges.

It really sounds like 2022 is going to be one of the most important years in the CSE’s history. Let’s conclude with your thoughts on what companies listed on the CSE can anticipate in terms of service enhancements in the new year.

In the first part of the year, we are going to be working with the industry on completing the comment period for the new listings manual project. And in conjunction with that, we are going to be quite vocal across a variety of channels, explaining to people that we have succeeded with a number of very large companies, so the marketplace can expect some promotion and information related to that.

As our customer base grows and our regulatory obligations and connection with the framework for the senior issuers grows, we will be enhancing the teams who work with our issuers and their advisors, in our Toronto and Vancouver offices in particular. It is incredibly important that we continue to maintain our service levels, which is a really important part of what we do. I have received tremendous feedback over the years regarding both the personal service levels people feel they get at the Canadian Securities Exchange and the very positive problem-solving culture within our group. And we are certainly looking to maintain that as we continue to build out the team in order to provide high levels of service.

And I know we have talked about it for some years now, but we will see settlement and clearing services from the Canadian Securities Exchange in 2022. In fact, I have just come from a demonstration of the real, live system which is up and running in our testing environment. So, that is something I think will give us a significant advantage, in particular when we are working with the industry on listing structured products and taking advantage of the benefits of tokenizing their securities.

Obviously, there is lots going on. As we know, there is also motion in the global securities world. We’ve got Cboe Global Markets, which has acquired the NEO Exchange locally, and they will be closing that transaction at some point next year. And so that really leaves us as the only Canadian listing venue, along with the TMX Group, being locally owned and operated. That is an advantage we will be continuing to present to the industry in 2022.

Check out Part 1 of the interview here.

CSE Performance

Year-End 2021 Interview With Richard Carleton

Anyone keeping an eye on developments at the CSE over the past several years has watched the Exchange go from strength to strength, with the number of listed securities, capital raised by CSE-listed issuers, trading volume, and other performance measures climbing sequentially without interruption.

As exciting as the growth in CSE performance and services has been to date, the Exchange is preparing to take things to an entirely new level in 2022. Key to this is a senior designation for larger issuers who meet certain criteria. The new designation, and the regulatory framework that comes with it, also means that ETFs, SPACs, and structured products will be able to list on the CSE for the first time.

In an interview conducted in mid-December, CSE Chief Executive Officer Richard Carleton discussed these topics and more, giving issuers and investors a preview of what is shaping up to be the CSE’s biggest year ever.

Companies listed on the CSE have enjoyed an excellent response to their capital raising efforts in 2021, with a total of $7.74 billion in financings completed in the 12 months to the end of November. We have seen equity raises of all sizes, and debt is becoming more prominent as well; in October, Trulieve Cannabis successfully marketed US$350 million in senior notes. The listing environment at the CSE is designed to facilitate a low cost of capital for the Exchange’s issuers. As larger fundraisings take place, is that advantage being maintained?

There is a lot of ground to cover there, but I’d begin by saying that the Exchange exists to remove as much regulatory friction from the capital formation process as possible, so there are advantages for CSE-listed issuers generally when they are raising capital. As an example, we don’t charge issuers a percentage fee of the amount raised each and every time they do a secondary offering.

In large measure, the decrease in capital costs we’ve seen is also a function of changing dynamics, in that capital is being provided to large and successful companies, particularly in the US cannabis space. For instance, some of these companies were able to launch debt offerings because they now have substantial revenues to secure the debt against. As a result, they have seen the cost of capital from a debt perspective drop to levels which begin to reflect companies of similar size and growth trajectory in the consumer-packaged goods sector.

It’s thus a function of how we operate as an exchange, but also an indication of how capital providers view many of the companies listed on the CSE.

At the end of November, there were 736 listed securities on the CSE, which is 17% higher than at the same time last year. Talk to us about some of the trends you have observed in companies coming to market in 2021.

The first thing is that we are likely to achieve a record in terms of the number of new companies that join the Exchange this year. Right there, that tells you that the market is very robust for companies looking to raise capital to go public. One of the interesting things is that it has been very broadly based. We have many new themes that people have been interested in.

The sustainable food movement is a good example of a sector where a number of companies have tapped the public markets this year. Obviously, the psychedelics industry has also captured a good deal of investor attention. And then there are long-standing industries, such as mining, which is back in a big way, not only because of the robust nature of precious metals prices but also because investments are being made in various industries to advance the electrification of the economy, or decarbonization if you want to call it that. This has a significant impact on the mining space because the demand for the minerals used to produce batteries is extensive. And, of course, companies are also looking to shorten their supply chains, so investments in projects located within North America, for example, have been accelerated.

We have also had a continuing robust marketplace in the cannabis space. We have seen some new issuers in this sector join the Exchange this year and significant amounts of capital have been raised.

In addition, there has been tremendous investment in technology, which provides us with esports, gaming, and the decentralized finance companies related to blockchain. From my 30 odd years of experience in the capital markets, this is really one of the few times I can recall when virtually every industry sector is firing on all cylinders.

There is potential to challenge another listings record in 2022 and surpass this year’s total. This is a very exciting prospect for me, as it shows there is a high demand for our services.

Explain the role of retail investors in the market in 2021. What impact did they have on trading and liquidity?

In a word, huge. The junior capital markets in Canada are traditionally dominated by retail investors. Retail participants have always constituted an extremely important part of the investing and trading community that supports the work of the Canadian Securities Exchange.

It’s no secret that there was an absolute explosion of retail trading activity, particularly in the first quarter of 2021. We’ve set records in terms of daily number of shares traded, transactions, and value traded. By any measure, we are significantly above any kind of activity levels seen previously. And that growth has been principally driven by the expansion of activity from the retail space.

When we talk to our colleagues, and particularly those in the discount brokerage sector, we’re hearing that a whole new generation of investors has joined the marketplace, and really just since the beginning of the pandemic. These newcomers skew significantly younger than the traditional retail investor population who were in the 55 and up category in the past. We have seen lots of new accounts opened with significant participation from people in their 20s and 30s. These are people who are investing in the markets for the first time, and they bring a different viewpoint. They were enormously important in providing capital to the cannabis industry. They are very focused on issues around sustainability and environmental impact, diversity, and helping create a better world. They want to invest in company stories they believe in and that are helping to shape that better world.

There are a number of longer-term outcomes we will see because of this. Things such as ESG (Environmental, Social and Governance) reporting from companies, as well as companies having to pay a significant amount of attention when presenting their stories to where they sit in the world of impact investing. I think it is healthy, it’s positive, and it’s going to introduce some important changes to the way in which companies raise capital and communicate with their shareholders.

Check out Part 2 of the interview here.

CSE Performance, Industry Insights

Promoting a Level Playing Field for All Publicly Traded Companies in Canada

By Richard Carleton, CEO of the Canadian Securities Exchange

One of the very best aspects of the Canadian capital markets is our ability to provide funding to early-stage companies. With a successful history of financing mining and oil and gas exploration, the industry has applied its skills in more recent years to support innovation in a broad range of sectors such as technology and life sciences. This has resulted in notable recent success for companies in the legal cannabis sector. 

Canada is a world leader in the provision of capital to companies from around the world in these fast-growing new industries. Recent investment themes include the development of medical applications for the treatment of mental health issues with psychedelic compounds, and backing for the rise of cryptocurrencies and supporting technologies that are driving efficiencies in the payments sphere and the provision of financial services.  

As with any industry, competition in the provision of stock exchange services in Canada have benefited issuer companies and investors alike. 

The Canadian Securities Exchange (CSE) launched 18 years ago with a mission to provide public issuers with a streamlined, lower-cost alternative to the Toronto Stock Exchange and TSX Venture Exchange. We succeeded. The CSE is now home to more than 700 active listings and has attracted more global issuers of greater size and maturity over the last few years than at any other point in its history. 

Greater competition, including other new exchanges launched after the CSE, has clearly benefited Canada’s investment community, as well as the companies and investors that it serves.

That said, we can and should be doing a much better job of enabling competition in the provision of exchange services to companies, brokers, and investors. Here are a few examples of the challenges faced by new entrants, and some potential solutions. 

Market Data

In the United States, an industry consortium collects and processes real-time market information from the stock exchanges and then provides access to the data for all the securities listed on each exchange (Nasdaq, NYSE and NYSE American) for a single fee. In other words, regardless of where a particular security trades, and at last count there were 16 venues, an interested investor can “see” every trade and current quotation. 

This is not the case in Canada. In an environment where almost half of the trading in TSX and TSX Venture Exchange stocks occurs on different marketplaces, investors are forced to deal with the venues individually to see the full picture. Many people, who either don’t understand our convoluted market structure, or do not want to pay these separate fees, opt to take the data from the incumbent exchange only. This leads to a series of issues:  

  • When trading is disrupted for any reason on the TMX Group exchanges, Canadian liquidity dries up precipitously. In the United States, when the major exchanges have technical issues, the other markets pick up the slack without missing a beat. Canadian markets are not nearly as resilient as they could be.
  • With large segments of the industry not having access to meaningful market data, and this group includes the professional retail advisors at the national investment dealers, the lack of transparency does little to enhance confidence in the functioning of Canada’s stock markets. People naturally assume that if they can’t see trading activity, that something unwholesome is going on. This lack of transparency breeds a lack of confidence in the operation of the markets.               

Index Membership

I again refer to the experience of exchange competition in the United States. The tech giants we now know so well were essentially forced to go public on Nasdaq, because NYSE’s listings qualification rules during the 1970s and 80s required a company to have significant tangible assets. In other words, the exchange didn’t give credit to the important intellectual property assets held by the rising technology sector. 

This subtle form of discrimination extended to membership in the benchmark US indices such as the S&P 500 and the Dow Jones Industrial Average: companies were required to be listed on the NYSE to be eligible for inclusion in these indices. It took many years of pressure from users of the indices to spur the index providers into changing their criteria. 

We find ourselves in the same situation in Canada years later. The S&P/TSX indices, with hundreds of billions of investment dollars measured against these benchmarks, require a listing on one of the TMX Group exchanges for a company to be eligible for inclusion. 

This has distorted the market in a variety of ways: companies that have grown to a size warranting consideration for inclusion in one of the S&P/TSX indices have left, unwillingly, a competitor exchange to move to the Toronto Stock Exchange. Make no mistake, the possibility of index membership is attractive to prospective listed companies. 

Eliminating the requirement that a company be listed on a TMX Group exchange in order to be included in one of Canada’s benchmark indices will enhance competition in our space.        

The Peculiar Meaning of “Venture Issuer”

This issue is perhaps the most subtle, yet wide ranging barrier to better competition in the stock exchange industry. Let me start with a bit of background. To promote a framework where it is cost effective for small companies to go public, regulators have created two sets of requirements for public companies: those set out in the provincial securities acts with rules for governance and reporting for larger, more mature companies, and a less prescriptive set of rules designed for so-called “Venture Issuers.” 

Unfortunately, instead of identifying which public companies are “Venture Issuers” based on objective measures like market capitalization, revenues, assets or other objective measures, the framework instead defines them as issuers listed on the TSX Venture Exchange and the Canadian Securities Exchange. 

This system worked reasonably well during the early stages of exchange competition in Canada. When smaller public companies reached a certain level of success on the TSX-V or CSE, they would typically move their listing to the TSX or a US exchange. At that point, they would shed the “Venture” label and be re-classified as “Issuers” for the purposes of their disclosure and governance rules. 

This labelling is extremely important because “Issuers” and “Venture Issuers” are not treated equally in the investment ecosystem:

  • CSE-listed “Venture Issuers” are not eligible for margin relief under the rules of the Investment Industry Regulatory Organization of Canada. This means that CSE-listed companies are not permissible in client margin accounts; securities of these issuers in dealer inventory are carried at full value against the firm’s regulatory capital. This measure increases the cost of financing for these issuers and can keep some dealers out of the space altogether.
  • Investment mandates from institutional investors may not permit these asset managers to purchase the securities of “Venture Issuers,” narrowing the range of capital available for promising early-stage companies and even some larger issuers listed on the “wrong” exchange.
  • Some international index providers will not consider “Venture Issuers” for inclusion in their indices, denying companies exposure to investors and frustrating a company’s attempts to increase the range of investors in their company’s securities.

Thanks to the CSE’s recent success in attracting and retaining larger issuers, particularly in the global cannabis sector, the “normal” evolution of successful companies jumping from the CSE to the TSX has broken down. The CSE is now established as a credible home for larger, more advanced companies, which are using their CSE listings to raise serious amounts of money. The total capital raised by CSE issuers last year exceeded $6 billion, compared to about $0.5 billion in 2016. Last year’s total has already been exceeded this year. Liquidity measures also show the CSE in a superior light to the TSX-V and NEO exchanges and have exceeded the measures produced by the TSX itself for significant periods of time over the last few years.

While we are delighted that larger issuers are choosing to make the CSE their home over the longer term, the “Venture Issuer” status has become a real problem. These larger CSE-listed companies, some of which have market capitalizations in the billions of dollars, are at a significant disadvantage to comparable companies on rival exchanges that are eligible for margin relief and the other benefits I outlined above.

We could wait for the various regulators to address the competitive imbalance, but true to our nature as disruptors in the marketplace, we are tackling these problems head on. 

We are in the long process of rewriting our listing policies to create two tracks for companies listed on the CSE: one for “Venture Issuers” and another for more mature companies. Under the new rules most companies will remain “Venture Issuers.” The larger and more advanced companies will, however, get reclassified, allowing them to (hopefully) enjoy the same benefits as “Issuers” on the TSX. Accordingly, they will be formally subject to a more prescriptive corporate governance regime that mirrors the policies set out for existing “Issuers” under securities law and related exchange rules.

We have worked hard with regulators to formulate this revision of our listing policies and have published the proposed changes for public comment here: https://thecse.com/en/about/publications/notices/notice-2021-005-request-for-comments-proposed-policy-amendments 

The entire investment community should support our proposal. It is simply a matter of fairness and common sense. By addressing regulations that should have been dealt with years ago, we can enhance the competitive landscape for issuers and investors in Canada and ensure a strong and vibrant capital formation ecosystem well into the future.

CSE Performance, Industry Insights

Richard Carleton’s Interview with Highly Capitalized

CEO Richard Carleton was pleased to sit down with Greg Hasty from Highly Capitalized during MJBizCon Las Vegas to discuss the CSE’s position in the global cannabis space, how the industry as a whole is maturing, as well as M&A activity and brand building among US cannabis MSOs. Read the transcript of the interview below. 

Greg Hasty:

Hey everyone. Welcome back to our continuous coverage of MJBizCon 2021. I’m Greg Hasty here in downtown LA at the HCN studios. And I have the pleasure of being joined by Richard Carleton, the CEO of the Canadian Securities Exchange. Richard, how are you doing?

Richard Carleton:

I’m doing well. Thanks Greg. Pleasure to be back at MJBiz in Las Vegas after a couple of years off.

Greg Hasty:

Absolutely. I’m very jealous. I’m already envious of you being on the floor while I’m stuck back here in the studio in LA, but great to see you again. Great to connect with you again. 

Lots of changes, lots to talk about since the pandemic hit, but not all of them negative. Some really, really good developments in cannabis and adjacent markets. Tell us a little bit about what’s exciting you. What are you pumped about coming out of 2021?

Richard Carleton:

I think for people who don’t know who the Canadian Securities Exchange is, just a bit of a backstory, we made the fateful decision about five years ago to not just list companies from Canada in the cannabis space, but to begin to work with the industry in the US as well. And we really became the partner for the US multi-state operators to access public capital in Canada, and the United States as well. And all of the significant MSO operators who are public now are listed on the Canadian Securities Exchange. 

We have roughly 160 odd companies in the cannabis space on the exchange overall. And it’s a significant percentage of our market capitalization, and daily trading turnover. From that strength, we have levered that position in the industry to work with companies from Latin America, South America, the Middle East, in particular, Israel, as well as Asia.

So we’ve really achieved a lot for a small Canadian startup. We’re now 20 years old, in a significant position in the cannabis finance space globally. So it’s been a wild ride up to the pandemic. And of course, we all had some uncertainty in the early days. And broader markets were certainly under extreme stress. But then by June, things had recovered dramatically, not just in the broader market, but in the cannabis market specifically when it became obvious that consumers were in fact rotating their purchases in the cannabis space and really supporting the industry in a big way. 

And so, as the companies reported ever-improving results in Canada and the United States, increasing sales and moving towards profitability, that’s opened up a whole new range of opportunities for these companies to raise more capital and to begin to think about planting the flag in new states and new jurisdictions, and expanding their businesses organically.

Greg Hasty:

Absolutely. And I just love the journey that you’ve been on. I’ve been following you for at least six or seven years now and I remember even in my earliest interviews, people talking about getting involved with the CSE and how the CSE is really helping them get out there. And you really were the launchpad organization for so many businesses in the US, let alone businesses in Canada itself. 

So talk to me a little bit about the current state of MSOs and Canadian businesses as well. There’s a lot of activity. M&A is a big thing right now. Tell us about the market shift and what trends you’re seeing.

Richard Carleton:

I think the important driver across the board here is a decreasing cost of capital for the large Canadian LPs and the US multi-state operators, with the number of opportunities that are opening up in new jurisdictions in the United States. We obviously have the tri-state area on the east coast. Michigan is obviously developing jurisdiction, Pennsylvania’s developing, maybe Ohio at some point in the not too distant future. They’re even talking about medical in Texas. 

So there’s still tremendous opportunities for growth in the US markets, specifically. All told, I think it’s about a hundred billion a year between the illicit and the legal markets in the US now. So we know that there’s an enormous addressable opportunity for the operators to take advantage of, and they are. What we have seen is that companies from the US space, through the CSE, have raised more than $4 billion on a year-to-date basis.

That money is pretty much earmarked for mergers and acquisitions activity, as well as to build out in some of the states where they’re currently already operating. And again, there’s a significant cost of capital advantage. We’ve seen debt capital raised by a number of these companies that are now down in the single digits from a coupon perspective. 

A year or two ago, companies were looking at 15% interest on debt. We saw last week an issuer raised debt at a 7% coupon. And the difference, of course, is that they have cash flows to secure that debt financing against, and so, the cost of capital has come down. They will use those advantages, as I say, to be very active in mergers and acquisitions activity, and they will continue to expand their footprint in the United States in particular.

Greg Hasty:

Do you see any difference in how MSOs are approaching M&A activity compared to what they were doing pre-pandemic? We saw a lot of MSOs build themselves up. And sometimes, it was a little “cart before the horse” in a lot of cases, and sometimes they would tackle almost too much in activity. 

Are you finding that these MSOs that you’re working with and have partnerships with are being a little bit more strategic in their approaches? What’s kind of top of mind for them right now when they’re looking at different M&A opportunities?

Richard Carleton:

I think we understand well now where the value in the chain is highest. With cultivation assets, I think this is what you were saying was a big focus of investment in the early stages. And we now see over-capacity in a variety of regions in the United States, particularly California. Clearly that’s not going to be a source of margin for these companies moving forward. 

It’s all about building brands, rationalizing your supply chain, and getting more and more product on the shelves, whether you own the dispensary, or through license agreements or agreements with recognized retailers, to get your high margin products in the hands of consumers. And I think that’s a sign of the increasing maturity of the industry, and understanding where future revenue and margin growth is going to come from.

Greg Hasty:

I’m personally really excited by that as a marketing and branding guy, to see people focus on consumer experience, on brand loyalty, on proper brand stewardship in cannabis, and not just cannabis-adjacent markets. You have psychedelics that are coming online. You even have technology companies that are now focused on the consumer experience and quality and stuff like that. So it’s really nice to see that maturity come into the industry, and it sounds like it’s just going to be more and more of a benefit for our partners moving forward.

Richard Carleton:

That’s absolutely right. And when we look at, for example, the Canadian LPs, they have real challenges in building brands because of the marketing and advertising restrictions that are placed on those companies. 

That’s actually why you see the Canadian LPs wanting to invest into the US business lines, because that is where you’re able to develop those brands, and build consumer loyalty. Because again, this isn’t really the same as any other consumer packaged goods where you’re trying to build a brand from scratch because you know there’s an addressable market. You’re trying to win back share from the illicit market. 

And so to do that, to command a bigger and bigger share of that brand loyalty and a successful consumer experience, it’s obviously going to be absolutely critical in winning that share.

Greg Hasty:

Wonderful. Well, Richard, I really appreciate your time. I love chatting with you. We can go so much deeper in the flow of the markets, but what’s wonderful about cannabis is that it’s always exciting and there’s always something going on. So every time we talk it’s a new and amazing adventure.

But that being said, the trend of maturity keeps going. Seeing these markets come online stronger, seeing these companies come back stronger is such an exciting thing. But thank you again, Richard, I love the chance to talk with you, and I hope you enjoy your time on the floor. Always make sure to check out the Canadian Securities Exchange on their website, and Richard, I believe you also have CSE TV, which is your social media outlet, correct?

Richard Carleton:

That’s correct. That’s our YouTube channel. We encourage everybody to subscribe. Through the pandemic, we’ve been doing a lot of our shareholder and company education through the medium of YouTube, as well as LinkedIn and Twitter and Facebook and so on. But we really like YouTube. 

Greg Hasty:

Beautiful. So make sure to go on YouTube, check out CSE TV. Really great quality content. And they’ve really put in the work, especially over the pandemic. Richard, thank you again. It was great to see you. Make sure to also check us out on highlycapitalized.com to stay up to date on today’s events and all the interviews you may have missed, as well as the upcoming interviews. And make sure to follow us on LinkedIn and Facebook to stay up to date on our broader services. We’ll be right back. Stay tuned. See you for the next interview.

Richard Carleton:

Thank you.

 

To watch the full video interview, click here.

CSE Performance

CSE 2021 First Half in Review with Richard Carleton

Stock markets around the world continued to enjoy high levels of investor participation and buoyant prices in the first half of 2021.  How happy are you with the first six months of the year, and what were some of the highlights in terms of issuer accomplishments and milestones achieved by the CSE team?

We are delighted with what we have experienced in the first six months of 2021.  First and foremost, the CSE team continues to perform at a very high level, notwithstanding the ongoing impact of the pandemic on day-to-day operations at our offices in Vancouver and Toronto, plus our team members in Calgary, Montreal and elsewhere.

What I’m particularly proud of is just how well the team has pulled together and continued to maintain a high level of service for the trading, listing and market data operations of the exchange.

One noteworthy trend we are seeing is a steady rise in retail trading activity.  The first quarter of 2021 brought record levels of turnover for the CSE, and indeed for the broader Canadian public equities market.  This is also the case throughout North America, and there has been a particular focus on smaller capitalization stocks.  Things calmed down somewhat from April but we are operating well ahead of our targets for the year.

Speaking with my colleagues, and particularly those in the discount brokerage industry, there has been a significant demographic shift in who is opening brokerage accounts these days.  In Canada, a record number of new accounts were opened last year, and they tended to be opened by people in the 20 to 40 demographic, many of whom were investing in the stock market for the first time.

Like their parents, they buy bank stocks and other large-cap Canadian and US equities.  But they’re also interested in sectors where the CSE is particularly strong – cannabis, psychedelics, e-gaming, blockchain and cryptocurrency-related securities, as well as health tech, which obviously is an industry sector that has been in focus.  And, of course, the mining industry, whether it’s precious metals exploration companies, because of the strength in gold and silver, or the “green” metals, such as copper, with the continued electrification of economies around the world.  We’ve welcomed many new companies to the Canadian Securities Exchange over the last five years in all of these categories.

One of the other important developments is a significant rebound in valuations for US cannabis companies listed on the Canadian Securities Exchange.  That has two principal outcomes for us.  One is that existing issuers have been successful in raising additional capital.  In January, we saw a record amount of capital raised by our issuers, totaling well over $1 billion.  The majority of that was cannabis issuers raising money to fund acquisitions or expand operations organically, as more and more US states legalize cannabis for medical and recreational purposes.

The other is that we saw a number of cannabis companies come to the CSE that had opted to remain private until they saw this rebound in valuations.  We’ve had some very meaningful companies join the exchange in the last little while from the United States.

As you just highlighted, it is not uncommon for CSE issuers to collectively raise $1 billion or more in a single month.  What new financing developments or trends are you seeing at the moment?  Are there any industry sectors, capital sources or modes of financing that stand out?

I just touched on some of these, but one of the trends we saw beginning to build in 2020, which has reinforced itself in 2021, is a lot more prospectuses being filed than before.  Instead of going public by way of a fundamental business change or a reverse takeover, we are increasingly seeing the traditional IPO selected as the preferred means.  That’s a positive trend because companies come to market with what tends to be better distribution of their securities, a larger shareholder base, and a shareholder base that is actually invested in that specific story.  Post-listing price performance also tends to be a little better than for companies that come to market by way of RTO.

Similarly, existing issuers are raising large amounts of new capital, and instead of being done by way of private placement – although the private placement is still an important means of sourcing funds – we are seeing issuers file shelf prospectuses to facilitate broader distribution for their transactions.  That is a very positive development because when shares are qualified under a prospectus, they are free trading immediately, and that tends to enhance the liquidity profile of the company.

Work to establish a senior market tier for larger issuers is moving forward.  What is the status in terms of steps left and an approximate timeline?  Also, what benefits will the senior tier bring for issuers on the CSE?

This project has been progressing for a while and involves not only creation of a senior tier but also the first significant rewrite of the rulebook for the CSE’s small-cap issuers.  We’ve been working for a number of months with our regulators in British Columbia and Ontario on the provisions and are close to publishing our proposals for public comment.  The comment period will likely last for 45 days and we’ll be seeking input from interested individuals, law firms, accounting firms, investment banks and, of course, our issuers. We look forward to having these new provisions in place ideally at some point in the fall.

With regard to benefits for the companies in the senior tier, there are a number of them.  I’ve spoken in the past about eligibility for margin relief under IIROC rules.  It will be up to each dealer to decide if they will recognize margin eligibility for a particular security on the basis of price history and volatility.

It also influences dealer capital structure, because dealers who have securities in inventory that aren’t margin-eligible have to maintain a capital reserve against them that’s one hundred cents on the dollar.  They get relief from that requirement if the securities are margin-eligible; that reduces the cost of financing during a bought deal, for example.

We’ll be working with the index providers to ensure that companies are eligible for inclusion in Canadian and US indices by providers such as MSCI and FTSE.  And we’ll be looking at rules around eligibility for individual stock options.  A number of companies in the senior tier would meet the Canadian Derivatives Clearing Corporation minimum standards – exceed them by a good measure, in fact – for market capitalization and liquidity to have single-stock options trade in relation to their shares.  That has the potential to improve liquidity in the cash market, and again is just part of the growth of the Canadian Securities Exchange and the companies listed with us.

What will the benefits of a CSE senior tier be for investors?

For investors, what we hope ultimately to see is the opportunity for lower costs.  We are building toward a time when people will be able to have these stocks in a margin account, though, as I say, it is up to each individual investment dealer as to whether they will permit that or not.  But at least it will create that possibility.

We also think a senior tier can attract additional institutional investors so that CSE issuers see even better liquidity, broader interest and more analyst coverage.  It really is us moving forward alongside our issuers.

The CSE welcomed some new members to its board of directors in the second half of 2020, and you’ve added to other parts of the team as well.  Is there anything new from a policies or capabilities perspective you’d like to highlight?

Our work continues on delivery of a full lifecycle of services for tokenized securities and to this end we’ve made a series of investments and established a variety of partnerships.  We’ve had very productive meetings with regulators recently which give me a high degree of optimism that we are on the right track.

To recount the specific benefits, it is really a situation where everyone has the chance to win.  We look to make a significant dent in clearing costs for investment dealers.  For investors, we look to bring new categories of asset classes into the public market as investments, and in particular we think a number of these could be income-producing investments.

Most importantly for issuers, we believe we can reduce their cost of capital.  I’ve spoken in the past about the opportunity to have mining royalties brought to a public market, which has the potential to dramatically cut the cost of capital for an issuer.  It’s an alternative to entering into private equity arrangements with one of the handful of institutions around the world that provides that kind of financing.

We are also very much looking at our market structure, which you can think of as the plumbing for our equity trading system, with particular importance on the need of dealers to cut their cost of managing buy and sell orders for CSE listed companies.

The explosion of activity and support we’ve had for our market in the latter part of 2020 and into 2021 has had a meaningful impact on the operations and cost structure of a number of discount brokers.  For example, you will see very shortly that we are making progress with Wealthsimple in adding securities to their commission-free program.  This is something we have had to work on quite carefully with Wealthsimple to ensure they can do this on a cost-effective basis.  There is a lot going on and the team is going to be very busy throughout the rest of the year.

The CSE undertook some major awareness initiatives in the first half of 2021.  The Cannabis Investor Series was broadcast each week during the month of May and followed successful multipart series on health tech and plant proteins.  Talk about the benefits and what comes next.

It’s really two-fold.  The first is that we obviously want to be seen as a trusted source of information for investors in particular market segments.  And because of the relationships we have with thought leaders and entrepreneurs, we have the opportunity to pull together some very compelling content and fill investor needs for more information about these particular industry sectors.

The other side of these series is developing closer working relationships with the executive management teams of the issuers and prospective issuers and thought leaders in different industries.  There is no substitute for a personal relationship when you are looking to overcome hurdles and build more business or attract additional listings, and the same goes for further establishing the reputation of the Canadian Securities Exchange as a trusted provider of listing services to the entrepreneurial community.
It is great to have an opportunity to provide that education and more information for investors, but we also enjoy the opportunity to work very closely with existing issuers and potential issuers.

Continuing to build the roster of issuers from overseas and make foreign capital aware of CSE companies is important for your team.  Talk about related plans, and why companies outside of Canada should consider a CSE listing.

We’ve all been working from home for a year and a half but when we are finally able to travel again we will do so extensively.  In the meantime, we have been leveraging various communications technologies to work with different industries in different parts of the world.

Clearly, in the cannabis space we carved out a great reputation – first by working with the industry in Canada, and then to share in the growth of the industry in the United States.  And because of that we attracted entrepreneurs from Israel, from South America, from Asia, from Europe, and it has cemented our reputation as the go-to place for entrepreneurial capital for the cannabis industry globally.

Because many of the issuers were backed by funds that are also prepared, for example, to look at investments in the psychedelics space, we are seeing companies in new sectors come to the CSE from beyond Canada and the United States looking to source Canadian public capital.

I’d also highlight the renewed interest in mining.  Mining was our largest source of new issuers in 2020 and that trend has continued into 2021.  It is one of the strongest, if not the strongest, individual sectors for us in terms of new listings.  Interestingly, we are seeing a lot of interest from Australia.  The Australian mining industry has a tradition of raising some of its capital in Canada, though historically it’s a bit more aligned with the capital markets in London.

What we are seeing now is junior exploration companies from Australia more seriously considering Canada as a potential source of capital, in part because the Canadian capital markets are well equipped to service exploration companies of all kinds.  As a Canadian reporting issuer you also have access to the United States through various prospectus exemptions that are hard-coded into the Securities Act in the US, as well as the opportunity to build a US shareholder base and US liquidity, that may include a quotation with the OTC Markets Group.

When we talk to issuers from outside of Canada who are looking at Canadian markets, the key thing is the expertise of the entire ecosystem for early-stage companies.  The CSE facilitates access to those markets in Canada but also the ability to bring in investors from the United States and beyond.  It really is a very powerful proposition compared with private equity alternatives or go-public transactions in countries where costs may be high and asset valuation and liquidity may not meet the requirements of the entrepreneurs.

With vaccination rates climbing quickly in Canada and provinces relaxing restrictions, what planning is the CSE doing to align with the shift back to more “normal” living conditions?

It will be a staged effort.  We are headquartered in Ontario and it has only been in the last few weeks that we have come out of hard lockdown, but serious restrictions on office occupancy remain.  We are going to maintain the work-from-home situation in British Columbia and Ontario for the remainder of the summer.  As September approaches, we’ll have a look and see where things are with the local regulations and our own staff and the level of comfort with returning to the office.

I think some of us who are fully vaccinated are likely to get back out on the road over the course of the summer and begin meeting with people on a face-to-face basis, even if it’s just on a comfortable patio somewhere.  And we’d certainly like to get back to the United States, as there is lots for us to do in that market.  We’ll obviously have to take it one step at a time as we see what governments have in store for us regarding border re-openings, interprovincial travel and other restrictions.  We’re paying very close attention to everything and considering our best path forward.